The concerted effort to promote CO2 reminds me of a disease racket like covid was so I suspected some "under the radar" effects of high CO2 content on humans that can be turned into profits by big pharma. Sure enough,
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Direct human health risks of increased atmospheric carbon dioxide
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We review preliminary evidence concerning the potential health risks of chronic exposure to environmentally relevant elevations in ambient CO2, including inflammation, reductions in higher-level cognitive abilities, bone demineralization, kidney calcification, oxidative stress and endothelial dysfunction.
I agree with you that this seems like a very professional campaign. It's not just a few yahoos and keyboards creating random memes. It would be interesting to see where the money comes from.
The fun stuff about marketing and advertising is that they do not Need to rely on reality, instead the have only to sell Dreams...the problem Is that reality Is a "bicth".
China has to do everything they can, with a huge population and industrial base, and not enough oil and natural gas, nor agricultural output. China is quite pragmatic, and also has some PR in place. India is similar in those regards, but Indian ways and Chinese ways are fundamentally opposed, deeply opposed culturally. They are just different social organizations, caste-system vs. linear hierarchy, reflecting different national minds.
Compared to the West, China has a highly skilled and well educated population. It's quite likely that for practical purposes, Confucianism has been restored but with (more) scientific characteristics. That implies meritocracy so even the elderly are motivated to contribute to society / general well-being.
India is very different, in practice the caste system still is effective and division over religious issues never has been a positive factor re well-being. While it's obvious that no two things can be equal, judging people on the basis of nondetectable properties is a sure cause for friction.
I appreciate your points, Jan, but the divide is deeper and more profound than that.
The caste system is not a strict hierarchy, a linear hierarchy, but is rather a complex fractal order embedded in each member of society, with complex relations implied for each other member of each other caste, gender, age and so on. There is a complex ecosystem in India, especially South India, and a Mediterranean culture, as opposed to an Asiatic culture, even though Asiatic cultures also differ, and some cross-pollenated with India more than others.
I went to high school in Japan, which is certainly not China, but was greatly influenced by China, and is much farther from being like India, as is China.
I have enjoyed traveling in Asia, extensively and with my wife and teenage kids. I was particularly proud after several weeks of trekking through India, Nepal and Sikkim, to see the kids with their backpacks flowing through the throngs on the streets of Delhi, where they had been awkward and hesitant 3 weeks prior. I was a proud father ;-)
Thailand was easy, really easy, and Laos, lovely and nice, and Cambodia marred by our older son getting appendicitis, so I shot him full of antibiotics and we hurried back to Bangkok. You really don't want to get surgery in Cambodia...
I am more inclined, as are some others, such as Catherine Austin Fitts, to consider that it may be authentic. The implication is that Atlantis was Frisia and that your people (more or less) were world travelers in antiquity https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40986/40986-h/40986-h.htm
My experience re Asia was limited to Sri Lanka, where the Hindus were severely discriminated by the Buddhists (!). I visited many monasteries and was invited to join every one of them. But the "tension in the air" was ominous so I didn't accept. Correctly so as a few years later the civil war broke out. Zen Buddhists fighting in South Korea, religious issues between Muslims and Buddhists in Myanmar (former Burma), my friend's experience in Thailand made sure never to visit Asia again.
Maybe China is better now but surely the cultural revolution has left some "never to heal" wounds as well. Why I was invited to join every monastery in Sri Lanka might be this: (old html, not written for mobile devices)
I don't use a mobile device, so I am protected, Jan.
So there were ancient spacecraft drawn in secret caves and the light of your mind exploded in the monk when he interrogated you.
That's cool. That happens.
What's your purpose in life at this point?
In January or February of 1991 a med school friend of mine took me to see the Dalai Lama under a tent in Santa Fe, New Mexico. We were in the second row of folding chairs, standing as he entered from the left of stage, laughing and smiling.
He looked me directly in the eyes and I exploded from within with brilliant white light, perhaps similar to what the monk experienced looking into you.
I had read his autobiography, and was interested to hear him speak, but this was completely unexpected.
I was later told by an older Tibetan monk, a teacher, that the Dalai Lama might have been my teacher in a prior life.
I paid very close attention to his lecture on "The non existence of the self", but failed to really "get it". He never looked me in the eyes again.
That was a completely singular experience in my life.
The concerted effort to promote CO2 reminds me of a disease racket like covid was so I suspected some "under the radar" effects of high CO2 content on humans that can be turned into profits by big pharma. Sure enough,
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Direct human health risks of increased atmospheric carbon dioxide
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We review preliminary evidence concerning the potential health risks of chronic exposure to environmentally relevant elevations in ambient CO2, including inflammation, reductions in higher-level cognitive abilities, bone demineralization, kidney calcification, oxidative stress and endothelial dysfunction.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-019-0323-1
Jan, if you send me your email address, I can insert you in our mailing list on this subject
I agree with you that this seems like a very professional campaign. It's not just a few yahoos and keyboards creating random memes. It would be interesting to see where the money comes from.
That’s not difficult to imagine!
Any large company today would be happy to spend millions on this.
The money on the ‘scientific’ side of the debate comes from private donations & science grants (now cancelled).
The fun stuff about marketing and advertising is that they do not Need to rely on reality, instead the have only to sell Dreams...the problem Is that reality Is a "bicth".
Whoever burns fossil-fuels (though they may be abiotic) will beat whoever does not, and can also afford good advertising.
It's just that way.
And can also afford to invest in renewables but without advertising.
https://daxueconsulting.com/renewable-energy-in-china/
China has to do everything they can, with a huge population and industrial base, and not enough oil and natural gas, nor agricultural output. China is quite pragmatic, and also has some PR in place. India is similar in those regards, but Indian ways and Chinese ways are fundamentally opposed, deeply opposed culturally. They are just different social organizations, caste-system vs. linear hierarchy, reflecting different national minds.
Compared to the West, China has a highly skilled and well educated population. It's quite likely that for practical purposes, Confucianism has been restored but with (more) scientific characteristics. That implies meritocracy so even the elderly are motivated to contribute to society / general well-being.
India is very different, in practice the caste system still is effective and division over religious issues never has been a positive factor re well-being. While it's obvious that no two things can be equal, judging people on the basis of nondetectable properties is a sure cause for friction.
I appreciate your points, Jan, but the divide is deeper and more profound than that.
The caste system is not a strict hierarchy, a linear hierarchy, but is rather a complex fractal order embedded in each member of society, with complex relations implied for each other member of each other caste, gender, age and so on. There is a complex ecosystem in India, especially South India, and a Mediterranean culture, as opposed to an Asiatic culture, even though Asiatic cultures also differ, and some cross-pollenated with India more than others.
I went to high school in Japan, which is certainly not China, but was greatly influenced by China, and is much farther from being like India, as is China.
I have enjoyed traveling in Asia, extensively and with my wife and teenage kids. I was particularly proud after several weeks of trekking through India, Nepal and Sikkim, to see the kids with their backpacks flowing through the throngs on the streets of Delhi, where they had been awkward and hesitant 3 weeks prior. I was a proud father ;-)
Thailand was easy, really easy, and Laos, lovely and nice, and Cambodia marred by our older son getting appendicitis, so I shot him full of antibiotics and we hurried back to Bangkok. You really don't want to get surgery in Cambodia...
Oh, are you familiar with the Oera Linda Book?
Wikipedia thinks it is a fraud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oera_Linda_Book
I am more inclined, as are some others, such as Catherine Austin Fitts, to consider that it may be authentic. The implication is that Atlantis was Frisia and that your people (more or less) were world travelers in antiquity https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40986/40986-h/40986-h.htm
Here is the interview with Catherine Austin Fitts and the translator: https://www.bitchute.com/video/1bZFfh1YmPj7/
My experience re Asia was limited to Sri Lanka, where the Hindus were severely discriminated by the Buddhists (!). I visited many monasteries and was invited to join every one of them. But the "tension in the air" was ominous so I didn't accept. Correctly so as a few years later the civil war broke out. Zen Buddhists fighting in South Korea, religious issues between Muslims and Buddhists in Myanmar (former Burma), my friend's experience in Thailand made sure never to visit Asia again.
Maybe China is better now but surely the cultural revolution has left some "never to heal" wounds as well. Why I was invited to join every monastery in Sri Lanka might be this: (old html, not written for mobile devices)
https://singularian.net/Unusual_meeting.htm
I don't use a mobile device, so I am protected, Jan.
So there were ancient spacecraft drawn in secret caves and the light of your mind exploded in the monk when he interrogated you.
That's cool. That happens.
What's your purpose in life at this point?
In January or February of 1991 a med school friend of mine took me to see the Dalai Lama under a tent in Santa Fe, New Mexico. We were in the second row of folding chairs, standing as he entered from the left of stage, laughing and smiling.
He looked me directly in the eyes and I exploded from within with brilliant white light, perhaps similar to what the monk experienced looking into you.
I had read his autobiography, and was interested to hear him speak, but this was completely unexpected.
I was later told by an older Tibetan monk, a teacher, that the Dalai Lama might have been my teacher in a prior life.
I paid very close attention to his lecture on "The non existence of the self", but failed to really "get it". He never looked me in the eyes again.
That was a completely singular experience in my life.
I'm sure the monk was impressed.